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Pastor Norman Gray, who leads the ministry Sunrise India, opened by greeting Journey Church and thanking Pastor Keith and Kara for the invitation. He then led the congregation in reading Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, which says there is an appointed time for everything under heaven. He contrasted seasons people expect, like fall and winter, with seasons that come without a calendar and are not chosen. His stated message was that God is a God of all seasons.
Norman shares a difficult season in his family's life. He said that before the Lord resurrects, there must be death. He pointed to Jesus, saying the biggest miracle was the resurrection, and for that Jesus had to die. He read John 12:24 about a grain of wheat that falls into the earth, dies and bears much fruit. He applied it to dying spiritually to pride, sin and the desires of the flesh.
His last point was that death does not get the last season; Jesus does. He closed with John 11:25, where Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live even if he dies." He said God does not bury corpses but plants seeds, asked whether anyone would be a Christian if Jesus had never been resurrected, and then prayed for those going through hard seasons.
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Seasons that do not come with a calendar
Reading Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, Pastor Norman noted that some seasons, like fall and winter, are expected, while others are never scheduled or chosen. He framed the whole message around the conviction that God is a God of all seasons, whatever season a person is walking through.
Dying before bearing fruit
Norman read John 12:24 and asked what we must die to. He named pride, sin, arrogance and rebellion, and said he did not mean physical death but dying spiritually to the desires of the flesh. He said the problem is that we are not willing to die, and that after this dying God brings a resurrection that cannot be stopped.
Jesus gets the last season
Closing with John 11:25, Norman taught that physical death is not the destination and that God has something greater. Life, Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit get the last season, he said, along with the sons and daughters of God who choose to repent and live for God's kingdom.
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so excited to have you here today to share with us all that God has imparted onto your heart. I have seen your book. I have read through a couple of chapters. I wish I could have gotten through the whole thing, but I will get through the whole thing. It encouraged me to find that Jesus is not just in our heads, but he can live in our hearts and make that heart change every single day. So, Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Come on, give God some praise. [cheering] [applause] Hallelujah. I was be I was backstage and I asked Elena, "Has there ever been an Indian preacher?" She said, "Are you Indian?" "Yes, you'll find out when I'm speaking." And she said, "I'm Indian, too." I'm like, "No, no, no, not the feather
Indian. I'm dot Indian." She said, "I'm Dot Indian, too." So, there's a difference. You know, dot Indian means the people who have dots right here. Greetings in the mighty name of Jesus. My name is Norman Gray and it is such a joy for me and my wife, my beautiful wife Supria, to be here. She's right there and she uh very soon she's going to be on stage. I have a lot of things to tell you this morning about the resurrecting power of Jesus. Amen. I want to thank Pastor Keith and his wife Kara in Israel right now and just loving their post, loving their journey, loving what what God is doing in and through them. And one of the things that I was meditating on, I was thinking on
what do I say about this couple? And I was not getting anything. I have not seen his style of leadership. I've known him for several years. Uh, but I have no idea how he operates. Of course, I've heard him speak many times online, but the moment we got here, I saw something that showed me what kind of leader he is. And they are, there were these kids who were operating the camera. And let me tell you, I texted him right away. I said, "I've preached all over America. I've preached in 40 states of America. I've never seen young kids like these serving in the production team. So, give it up for our pastors. Come on,
[applause] Keith and Kara. We love you. We thank you. Uh we thank you for this invitation. We thank you for allowing us to come and share what the Lord is doing. So, just just to let you know, I was born and raised in India, came to America in 2004 to be a youth pastor. I was 152 pounds. Uh, I came to Yuma, Arizona. I was 23 years old and there was hardly any Indians there. There was no Indian food and I tried all kinds of food, white food. I was living with a black family, so all kinds of food that black people eat. But then I was introduced to the greatness of Mexican food. Mexican food got inside of me and it's not trying to leave. It's been 24 years.
Mexican food made me pregnant and I stay pregnant. 152 lbs to 251 lbs in 6 months. Glory to God. Gloria. I love America. America is the greatest nation of all. And I'm so thankful that me and my family we uh so when I was youth pastor moved back to India pastor planted our first church in India then planted 19 more in the 17 years that we lived there got married to Supria my beautiful wife. We have two sons and I I believe there's a picture of my family up here. So you can see that's that's my wife Supria. That's Eddie and that's Andy. And so 16 and 11. And so they they're bummed. They they don't have school this weekend. And so they're very
angry at us that why didn't they why didn't they accompany us to to Journey Church but blessings to you in the name of Jesus. Sunrise India is the name of a ministry and we are associated with Assembly of Believers Church. I was um I've been a part of church since I was three years old and that's why I love these kids being in service and we were always in service. We always in church. The the idea of worship was inside of us. And my pastor uh my pastor was called when he was 13 years old. He's been preaching since 13. And so I love kids being part of of the worship services and being serving in the house of the Lord. So my pastor got a vision from the Lord that you got to plant uh 10,000 churches. And so when he planted
his first church in 1973, uh it was almost 10 years. In 83, I joined the church in 83 and there was only one church. And my pastor went to the Lord and he said, "God, you probably have a plan for me to live a million years because that's the way we I'll be able to plant these 10,000 churches because it's been 10 years and only one church." And so the Lord gave him a a vision, a plan. He said, "You raise 100 men and give them a mandate to plant a 100 churches each. I'm one of those hundred men and we have raised 100 churches. I believe in the next 10 years we'll see those 10,000 churches in Jesus name.
[applause] My pastor invested in the next generation and that's what I exactly see here. The same DNA because we are the same body of Christ. Can you say amen? Amen. Can you please stand with me to your places for the reading of the word? We are going to be reading in Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 1 to8. Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 1 to8. There's an appointed time for everything. There's a time for every matter under heaven. A time to give birth and a time to die. A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted. A time to kill and a time to heal. A time to tear down and a time to
build up. A time to weep and a time to laugh. A time to mourn and a time to dance. I love the times of dancing. A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones. A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing. A time to search and a time to give up as give up as lost. A time to keep and a time to throw away. Time to tear apart and a time to sew together. A time to be silent and a time to speak. A time to love and a time to hate. A time for war and a time for peace. Heavenly Father, speak to us this morning as we talk through your word as we go in deep dive in your word. Lord, speak to us and let us be changed, transformed, edified, and blessed in Jesus mighty name. You may be seated.
There are seasons that we go through that don't come uh as we expect them. But there are seasons right now we are into fall and we expect fall to happen. We expect winter to happen. We expect summer to happen. But then there are seasons that don't come with a calendar. There are times that we have not scheduled. There are seasons that we we have not scheduled. There are things that we have not scheduled. And these things are the first thing that I'm going to talk about the seasons that you then choose. I want to take you through a journey then just bring you to the destination. And and and it's just an honor for me to be at Journey Church. You understand journey. I'm glad that we are in journey church today that understands that it's
a process not just an autopilot. I'm wired in a way that I remember the journey more than the destination. I enjoy the journey more than the destination. But all journeys are not similar. Some are good, some are bad, some are accidents, some are uh worse than that you thought. But I want to talk to you this morning our journey that started many many years ago with me and Supria getting married. We had one boy and then she again got pregnant in 2014 and this is about 6 months during uh in in pregnancy that we she has some discomfort. I take her to the hospital not a hospital just a clinic next uh close to her house to find out that she
has unusual growth all around her womb starting from her uterus. And then a couple of uh days later, they did some scans to find out that she has 13 tumors starting from her uterus to the stomach all the way to the liver. And the biggest tumor is 15 by 22 cm. Uh the this little clinic had did not have the capacity to treat her. So they referred her to the biggest research hospital of our city that happens to be the first research hospital of the nation of India in Chandigarh. And so I take her there and they start doing research, blood work and all kinds of things to find out that she has all these tumors are cancerous malignant tumors and she's
pregnant six months and she was given 60 days to live by the doctors. This happened in October 2014 uh sorry yeah 2014. And then not only the doctors said that she's going to pass but the baby inside the womb is going to pass. And according to the doctors, according to these top doctors of India, she was assigned because she's a rare case. This kind of cancer happens to a pregnant lady every 40 to 50 years. Uh she's the fifth known case in the world and there's no research on this kind of cancer. So just imagine I'm pastoring a church. Uh, I have a 5-year-old boy and then my wife is at deathbed and the doctors have given her the death sentence and 60 days to live. Two deaths
in the family about to happen in 60 days. This was a season that I want to talk to you about that a season that we didn't choose. I call this personally the unexpected crisis season. Have you been in any of those seasons where you're not expecting that accident to happen, that report from the doctor, that cancer to be pronounced over you? I I was I was shattered. We were shattered. I was I was told that there'll be a there'll be two deaths. Be ready for it. I'm pastoring a church. Not only I'm pastoring a church. I'm planting and overseeing several churches. But I get this news and I've stopped going to church. I stopped sending my my my kid to the school because we have very limited time with Supria and every single night I you know
we had my mom or her mom would stay with her in the hospital. I had to take my older boy home and that 30 minute drive was the hardest drive because my 5-year-old boy would cry all the way to the house and would cry sleeping every single night in that moment. One night she was told that that she has to terminate this child because she was they were the hospital was treating her as a trophy patient. They thought if they can uh treat her if they can save her life it'll be a it'll be a big accompl accomplishment in the in the area of medicine in this kind of cancer. And so they came and told her tomorrow morning early in the morning we're going to come and terminate the child. The doctor said there's no movement, there's
no heartbeat, there's no growth, and the child is a dead piece of meat. Just imagine I was shattered. And I'm not sure if you know anything about India. In India, here in America, you tell the patient what's wrong with them. But in India, they tell the closest person to the patient. In in in her case, it was me. So for first two weeks my wife had no idea that she has this cancer but then she I was not there in the room with her. Uh some doctors came some nurses came and they started mentioning mentioning chemotherapy. At that time my sister was there and she heard chemotherapy doesn't that happen to people who have cancer. So my sister broke the news to her very graciously.
She said supria this is what you have and she started crying. I was not there. When I came to the room, she just hugged me and said, "I have no reason to not believe that my God can heal me. I have all the reasons. I believe in spite of this cancer, in spite of this death sentence, in spite of all what the doctors are saying according to their knowledge and wisdom, I choose to believe." Church, in the midst of cancer, I'm here to encourage you. Choose to believe in Jesus. Hallelujah. Choose to believe in Jesus. That night was tough for us. I decided to stay with my wife that night in the room and while we were praying this the presence of the Lord walked in the hospital room. You know something happens when God walks in a room. The
things have to change. Circumstances have to change. It was not that God was not with us but when the tangible presence of God walks in the room something happens you know. And the Lord said to me in India, you cannot find the gender of the child. It's illegal to find the gender of the child. So I had no idea. We had no idea if it's a baby boy or a baby girl. And so that night we are praying and the presence of the Lord walks in and the Lord said, "I have given you this child. It's a baby boy. Name him Andrew. Everything is going to be all right. I have given you this child. It's a baby boy. Name him [cheering] Andrew. He is going to be called Andrew." And I took my phone. There was no one in my family that was called Andrew. So I took my phone. What does Andrew mean? You know what Andrew means? Any And Andrews here this
morning? Any And Andrews here? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Andrew means strong man. Church, what the doctors call a dead piece of meat. My God calls him a strong man. [cheering] [applause] It doesn't matter. Doctors were not giving us the wrong information. and they were giving us the right information. But there's a God in heaven that proves these top doctors of India wrong. And I want to show you a picture of my son that was born on December 26, 2014 and how he looks now. Let's see Andrew's picture. He was born [cheering] perfectly fine [applause]
because he was surrounded by so much cancer. The doctor suspected that that he will have blood in his that he will cancer in his blood and so they took out his blood and did a lot of research and and they came back with the report and told me that there's no cancer in his blood. Hallelujah. [cheering] [applause] This is what the doctor said. You know they were so mad at us when I told them that we're going to carry this child. The doctor even cursed me out and he said who do you think you are? I said, "I am the servant of the most high God and my Lord has told me. My Lord has talked to me." And he couldn't believe these are Hindu people have no idea about a living God. See, being raised, born and raised in India, you understand
that every single religion is full of dead people and dead gods. But Christianity is different. We don't serve a dead God. We serve a living God. [applause and cheering] There's no resurrection in any religion other than or you I don't even like to call Christianity a religion because it's a religion. It's a faith. There's no resurrection in Hinduism. There's no resurrection in Islam. There's no resurrection in Sikism or any kind of Isism. But Jesus who rose from the grave and defeated [cheering] death. The doctor said your child will be a living vegetable. He'll not be able to move. His eyes will be messed up. His his limbs will be messed up. He'll not
be able to walk. But let me tell you what Andrew does for fun. The doctor said he does not have a heartbeat, but my son plays drums every single day and makes beats for the glory of Jesus. Self-taught. Hallelujah. It doesn't matter what death sentence the world has given you. When we serve Jesus, we ought to believe in his resurrection. Come on. Come on, give God some praise. [cheering] [applause] You got to love Journey Church when the best beard in the planet sits right in front of you. Amen. And that's a sign to my wife. We went to eat last night in
one of the best Thai places that I was recommended by Kelly. And there was this guy sitting with this beard and I'm like look at this guy wife. I want because I had a big beard but then my wife took a trimmer and shaved it. This is your sign right now. That's your sign number two. I'm telling you church doesn't matter what season you're going through but God is a God of all seasons. That's my that's my message tonight. this morning that God is a God of all seasons. In spite of this rare cancer, my wife believed. I was the one that was full of unbelief. But my wife believed. Believe for yourself. Believe for your kids.
Believe for your city. Believe for your church. Believe for your relatives. Believe for your neighbors. And when you believe, things are going to shake. Hallelujah. My wife believe for my son, our son. And that's why Andrew is gonna be 12 years old in December, no cancer, no vegetable. He's uh he's he's all over the place. It's so difficult to contain him. But God is good, church. God is good. It doesn't matter what season you're going through. So then what happened was of course uh our family was pumped. The the news spread like crazy. Our church started growing. We went into COVID with one service came out of CO with two
services. Our church our church blew up and people started coming in and I didn't like the idea of of of multiple services. So we moved in the biggest auditorium of the city and I said let's do church here. Come on give some give glory to God. But then my my father-in-law, my wife's father passed away with cancer. Even though he worked for US embassy, American embassy in New Delhi for 23 years. He was given a special immigration visa. My father-in-law had met two presidents of America. He has so much so many certificates of accolades that that he has collected in 23 years. He passed away in 2020.
And in all these years, I was coming back and forth to America. I was traveling all over the world. But my wife was never able to get a visa to come to America. Every time she would go to the embassy, they would she was denied. And the nail in the coffin was on December 11th. That happens to be her birthday. We are in the embassy December 11, 2020 to get a visa for her to come and attend her dad's funeral and they denied her to come. So my wife had not seen her father years and years. When he died, she was not able to come. And as she was sobbing, she was crying, she was weeping, she was devastated. I was crying too. And I asked the Lord, "God,
can you not take my family to America?" And to our surprises, what happened? They not only denied her a visa, but they banned our family to come to America. So I couldn't come, she couldn't come, our kids couldn't come. We are banned. And six months, I prayed to the Lord. I said, "God, please bring our family to America." And six months later, the Lord started talking to me and he said, "I'm going to take your family to America, but it's going to cost you everything that you've built in the last 17 years. You've planted so many churches. You've preached all over the place. This is your home church. We built our house in in the city that we we are pastoring the church." And the Lord said, "You have to leave everything." And this is what I responded. I said,
"Lord, anything for my wife." church, men, ladies, do anything for your family. That's what we are called for. My pastor taught me it's God first, family second, and then your ministry. And so I said, I'm going to sacrifice everything for my wife to be here in America and having no idea, no money, no resources, no connections of how we going to get here. People told us, "Hey, just come. The border is open. Joe Biden. Hail Joe Biden. I said, Joe Biden is clothed, show Jesus to me. He She's allowing me. Said, "No, no, no, no. That's not how we going to go.
Lord, if you're in it, you're going to take us legally [applause] [cheering] legally on a plane, not on a car and jumping the fence. I can't do that for a for I love America too much. Love America too much. can't do this to America that I come here illegally and live here. But this is what happened in 2022. We started talking some of my friends here in America started talking about coming to America and I came to America. Our family came to America in 2022. Three years ago we moved here and I was thinking that I am about to walk in the greatest season of my life. But coming
to America, it was honeymoon period for a couple of months. I was expecting all my pastor friends that I've preached for in the last several years, 40 states of America, we are going to be calling me. I'm going to be famous in America. I'm going to be rich. I'm going to be on all platforms and everything. But guess what? In the first year of our family moving to America, from a guy that preached to from 150 times a year, how many times I preached in the first year that I came to America? How many invitations? Three. I walked into the season where [clears throat] nothing grows. The most fruitless season of my life.
The least amount of money, the least amount of preaching, the smallest house that we have lived. It is it was given to us for for free to live in. We just took care of the utilities and our family gave it to us and we live we've been living there for past couple of years. a house built in the 60s. We are grateful for that opportunity. But the but it was a very old house, no resources, no invitations, no nothing. And I walked into the most fruitless season of my life. And I thought that I'm done. My ministry is done. I'm finished. I'm gone. There's nothing that that can come out of me.
And my my wife was seeing my frustration. My kids were seeing my frustration uh for my kids. I'm the hero. I'm Pastor Norman Gray, famous all over India. I'm preaching all over the place. And here we are in America. I'm not preaching nowhere. And my older boy is seeing that my dad is going through kind of pre-epression phase. But then the Lord said, "I'm with you." And church, that's all I needed to hear. Sometimes before the Lord resurrects you, you got to die. There's no resurrection without the death. And there's you will not understand the resurrection of Jesus until you understand the death of Jesus.
And the Lord told me, "Write your book." The Lord gave me a book in 2014. And the Lord said, "Write your book." Gave me a book. And I was like, "All right, God. You know, I'm going to do it when I'm old." Right? But the Lord said, "Write your book because this book is going to cause your resurrection." Just imagine me living in that small house. No invitations, no preaching, no podcast, no public ministry, no nothing. And the I'm I'm I'm feeling like I'm in a grave. I am done and dust and I'm died. And the Lord said, "That's what I require." This is what the go this is what God said for Jesus to for God to accomplish the biggest miracle through Jesus on planet Earth. It didn't require
Jesus to walk on water. It didn't require Jesus to feed the 5000. It didn't require Jesus to do nothing else but die. The biggest miracle is not feeding of the 5,000, not you know walking on water. The biggest miracle is resurrection. And for that Jesus had to die. And I was in a similar phase of my life. I was done. I was dusted. I was dead in public ministry. And the Lord said, "Write your book because I'm going to cause this book to be the resurrection." I want to show you this book, The Dead Jesus. I texted hundred pastor friends of mine. I said, 'What do you think of of a a book title called The Dead Jesus? They said, "It's a worse title for a Christian book."
All right, thank you very much. Let me go back in my grave again. But then the Lord said, you know, there were several pastors that gave me encouragement. one of your one of one of those pastors is your pastor, Pastor Keith gave me encouragement, gave me a few nuggets from all over America. And then I said, I'm not going to change the title of the book because the Lord gave me, right? It's something when God speaks to you directly. I'm not going to change the title. I'm going to add a fancy subtitle, f finding uh life in his death. And so uh there's a lot of testimonies that happened. We released our book and this is what happened on day one. I want to show you a a graphic on day one. my son Eddie who's designed the book who's uh you know proof read edited [clears throat] everything this is the company that is
above all the companies uh that that publish books IngramSpark and so he said 8:00 at night on Easter the day the book releases he said look at this our book is number one I'm like what do you mean Eddie I'm like what do you mean how how is this possible how can the book be number one on day one so I get on the platform, I log in and see my book is number one on day one in religion category. That that's a very a category of death because all kinds of c religions are in this category. And my book became number one on day one. Come on, give God some glory. [applause] God will use you in that grave to cause a resurrection like never before. This book has taken me all over the place. It
it has sold thousands of copies and I couldn't wait for Monday morning, the sun, the Monday after Easter, to text back this screenshot to all the pastors that told me that this is the worst title of a book because I knew none of those pastors are going to be checking any messages on Easter. So, I got up on Monday morning. I said, "Bro, thank you very much for your guidance. Thank you very much for writing me off. Thank you very much for writing my book off because the Lord had caused a resurrection like never before because he's an expert. Our God is an expert, a master in causing a resurrection. I've been preaching all over the country, all over the world. And by the time next Easter come, I'm going to be I will be done preaching on all six continents of the earth. Come on.
[cheering] A season of fruitlessness causes a season of death causes a season to resurrect. If you had looked at Jesus on Saturday, the Saturday between Good Friday and Easter, you could have also concluded that God has lost. But the preerequisite of a resurrection is that you have to die. I want to read John 12 and verse 24. John 12 and verse 24. This is what it says. Truly, truly I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone. But if it dies, if it dies, die, die to what? Die to your pride, die
to your sin, die to your arrogance, die to everything that is from the devil. When you die to human desires, if it dies, Bible tells us that it bears much fruit. Come on, give God some glory. [applause] You got to die first and then you're going to see the resurrection. The problem is that we are not willing to die. I'm not saying you die physically, but spiritually you die. You die. You die from every desires of the flesh. You die from all the pride, all the arrogance, all the rebellion that you have. When you die, then God causes a resurrection that cannot be stopped. Hallelujah. Church, I'm here to tell you, I want my wife to come on stage and I'm almost in my last point. My last point is that death doesn't get the last season.
Hallelujah. [cheering] Death doesn't get the last season. [cheering] Death doesn't get the last season. [applause] Life gets the last season. Jesus gets the last season. God gets the last season. Holy Spirit gets the last season. And you get the last season. Because you are sons and daughters of God who decided that I'm going to repent. I'm going to not live for myself, but I'm going to live for the kingdom of God. And that's why God, our God, gets the last season. [applause]
When we moved to America, you you may be seated. When we moved to America, uh because she's has to go to follow-ups and all that. So, we found a doctor, top oncologist in Austin, Texas. We live in San Marcos, just south of Austin. And so uh we went to this oncologist's top in you know in in Austin Texas top one of the tops in America and he said I cannot believe I see your reports and then I see you how did you go through this cancer allto together she has had four surgeries two C-sections one microwave abilation the tumors have gone grown you know gone and come back but in the last two years Since we have moved to America, there's no cancer in her body. There's no tumors.
[applause] This is what this doctor said. He's also from Indian origin. He said, "I want to make a compliment for your wife. Can I Mr. Norman?" And and I said, "Yes." He said, "I've never seen a more beautiful cancer patient in my life." [applause] And he was so intrigued. He said, "I want to see your son. I want to see your son. Next time when you come, bring your sons." About 6 months later, we go there and we take Andy with with with us. And this doctor is blown away. Every time we go see him, every 6 months or so, he's blown away. He's like, "I want to know. I want to know." I presented him the dead Jesus. [cheering] Yeah, you know this book is available for you. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. This book is this book is available out in the for and and we ordered a bunch but half only half of them got here because of the delays of the UPS but half of them are here. Get them after the service. I'm I'm not here to sell a book. I'm here to tell you I've already sold thousands of books. Amen. I'm not here to sell a book. This is not going to do anything to me because I don't get any money from the book. It's all go it all goes towards Sunrise India for the ministry. I want a visa, right? So I'm at the mercy of Donald Trump again. So I'm on a visa. So I cannot take any money from the book sales that I make. So you know I decided well you know if I can't take any money let's put all the money into the ministry and build churches in India and Nepal. Amen. [applause] But there's some available you can buy it. But I'm here to tell you that death doesn't get the last season.
That's what Job said. I will see him in when in the end I will see my God. I want to end with John chapter 11 verse 25. I want the band to come back and the altar prayer members to come on the front because I want to pray for you. John 11:25. This is what Jesus said. Jesus said to her, this is Jesus talking to the women. Jesus talking to the men. Jesus talking to the children. But Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live even if he dies." Your physical death is not the destination.
Your physical death is not the destination. God God has something greater for us. Amen. God has something greater for us. If he can do it for me, he can do it for you. Maybe you are going through a season that you don't like. you absolutely hate. Maybe you're going through a season of sickness, cancer. Maybe you've you've been given a death sentence by the doctor. You've been given days. And I specifically want to pray for people who are going through cancer. Maybe you're going through a fruitless season where you're sowing and sowing and sowing and nothing [music] seems to grow. Maybe you're going through a season of hiding, a season like me, a season of death, a
season of being buried. But church, I'm here to tell you that God [music] doesn't bury corpses. He's the one who plants seeds. I thought that I'm in a I'm in a in [music] a tomb. I thought that I'm buried. I'm gone. I'm done and dusted. Little did I know that God took me and planted me [music] like a seed in this season. In the most chaotic season of my life, in the most fruitless season of my life, God took me and planted me in that grave, not as a corpse, but as a seed. I'm here to tell you, the tomb, the grave can be [music] very discomforting.
No one likes a fruitless season. No one likes a season where nothing grows. No one likes a season where where you're written off. [music] No one likes a season where you're just counting days to die. Church journey church. I'm here to tell you that death [music] doesn't get the last laugh. Death doesn't get the last season. It's Jesus. It's Jesus. I've asked this question all over the world and I want to ask you church before I close. Would you be a Christian if Jesus was never resurrected? Right? No. Would you be a Christian if Jesus never resurrected? I have preached this message to over 200,000 people [music] in 23 nations.
And I'm yet to find one person that would say I would still be a [music] Christian if Jesus was never resurrected. See, Paul says without the resurrection, our faith is futile. But can I ask you a question that I asked before? Show me one resurrection in Hinduism. Show me one resurrection in Islam. [music] Show me one resurrection in Buddhism. Show me one resurrection in in in seekism. Zero resurrection. See, without the resurrection, you build a religion. But with the resurrection, you build a kingdom that cannot be shaken. We're not building no religion. We're building a [music] kingdom that cannot be shaken. Our king is coming back. is going to take us to heaven. We're going to live forever. And we're going to reign forever. We're going to dance forever. We're going to shout forever. We're going to praise forever. Because our God is not the one who died only. He's the
one who died for our sins and rose up on the third day, still lives, sits on the right hand of God, and intercedes for us. Church, let us all [music] stand to our places. Heavenly Father, we thank you. We thank you. The prayer partners are coming up and we want to [music] pray for you. I want to pray for you. I want to release a prayer of healing. I want to release a prayer of salvation. I want to release a prayer of redemption. I want to ple release a prayer of of [music] godly destiny in you this morning. And so if you are if you're going through one of those seasons that I talked about, if you're going through a rough season, if you're going through a cancer [music] season, if you're going through a lack season, if you're going through a rejection season, come forward. I [music] want to pray for you in Jesus mighty name. Heavenly Father, we thank you that [music] you are a God
of all seasons and you take us through through these seasons not to bury us but [music] to plant us so that we can be fruitful more than ever before. I pray and [music] release healing in the name of Jesus to anybody that is going through cancer. I release I release freedom to the [music] captives. I release salvation to the Gentiles. I release heaven in the name of Jesus. I release joy to the the ones that are broken. I release your anointing to the ones that are bound. I release your presence. [music] I release your presence in Jesus [music] mighty name. And everybody said amen.
Amen. Give God some praise. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. [applause] Last but not the least, I want to talk I want show you a a picture of of what we are doing as a ministry. Most of you probably have heard of the devastating floods that happened in Nepal. And so we took the initiative, Sunrise India took the initiative to rebuild some homes of believers, of Christians, of pastors. We have about 16 churches, church buildings in Nepal at the India Nepal border. And those church buildings are being used as refugee shelters. But a lot needs to be done. The whole project is about about 100,000 and and I and I'm sharing this because your pastor told me to share this. We going to rebuild Nepal in the name of
Jesus. Hallelujah. There's a mighty revival. [applause] There's a mighty revival happening. In spite of all our churches being in the flood zone, all the flow was coming from Nepal towards India. None of our churches was affected. Zero. Zero. [applause] And so the people of Nepal need you. People of Nepal [music] need you. Pray for Rebuild Nepal. Pray for Sunrise India that we are able to do what the Lord has called us to do. that we are able to cause a resurrection like never [music] before in Nepal. May the Lord bless you. Have a great day. Enjoy and live a resurrected life in Jesus name. [applause]
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The congregation stood to read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 together. Norman then prayed that God would speak to them through his word.
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
- Which pairs in Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 stand out to you, and why?
- How does Norman distinguish expected seasons from seasons we do not choose?
Read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 aloud and pray for God to speak to you through it, as the congregation did.
The grain of wheat
Norman read John 12:24 after describing the Saturday between Good Friday and Easter. On that day, he said, it could have looked as if God had lost.
John 12:24
- What does the grain of wheat do before it bears much fruit?
- Which things does Norman name as what we must die to?
- Why does Norman say the problem is that we are not willing to die?
Name one area of pride or fleshly desire and bring it to God in prayer, asking to die to it.
I am the resurrection and the life
Ending the message, Norman read John 11:25 and invited people going through hard seasons to come forward for prayer.
John 11:25
- What does Jesus claim about himself in John 11:25?
- How would you answer Norman's question about being a Christian without the resurrection?
Pray through John 11:25 and thank Jesus that he died for our sins, rose on the third day and intercedes for us.
Answers from this recording
Start a conversation.
How does Norman connect resurrection with Jesus' death?+
Norman said the biggest miracle was not feeding the 5,000 or walking on water but the resurrection, and for that Jesus had to die. He said you will not understand the resurrection of Jesus until you understand his death, and that someone looking at Jesus on the Saturday before Easter could have concluded God had lost. He then read John 12:24 about the seed that dies.
What does Norman's Saturday-before-Easter illustration show about apparent defeat?
